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What is best method for Beta binary and rollback to stable release

Full Beta and Rollback binaries in one click version, Use desktop PC and USB cable to flash the phone
11 (28.2%)
Register IMEI and receive Firmware over the air, Rollback by KIES 3 on PC
11 (28.2%)
Download the BETA binary onto my SD Card/Device storage and update from the device.
17 (43.6%)

Total Members Voted: 39

Voting closed: November 29, 2015, 12:01:44 PM

Attention Beta Testers: Please VOTE and share your opinion

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Attention Beta Testers: Please VOTE and share your opinion
« On:November 17, 2015, 11:45:12 AM »
Hi,

We would like to solicit opinion of all the beta testers on the delivery mechanism for the beta test binaries and rollback to stable release.

In our first 2.4 Beta binary contest we provided a FOTA ( Firmware update over the air) to registered IMEIs . Advantage of FOTA was that it is possible to deliver only delta binary update which is smaller than full binary.  However this involves registration of IMEI by you & de-registration by us to avoid continuous updates & false hopes of new binary for beta testers(after rollback).  In this method, you also need to install KIES3 to rollback.

So other alternative is to provide full binary as one click version. In this method approx 1GB binary needs
to be downloaded on PC and then flash it to device using USB.
For roll-back from beta to stable , again stable binary needs to be downloaded and flashed.
This process does not entail IMEI registration/de-registration.

Please participate in the poll and also provide your opinion in comments.

Thanks and Regards
« Last Edit: November 17, 2015, 11:59:18 AM by Zed Zapped »



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Re: Attention Beta Testers: Please VOTE and share your opinion
« Reply #1 On:November 17, 2015, 12:33:18 PM »
Attention Beta Testers: Please VOTE and share your opinion
https://samsung.tizenforum.com/?topic=957.0

About this poll, because I can not reply in this Thread.

I have choosen this:
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Register IMEI and receive Firmware over the air, Rollback by KIES 3 on PC

I like the idea, if old IMEIs are still registered... and not deactivated...
If new Activation is mandatory...

Anyway... with registered IMEIs and FOTA it would be possible to test minor updates also...
If something is to be fixed... then next update could be also FOTA...  8)

1clickOdinFullFirmwaretool could be for all users... who are willing to test easier...
300 MB 2.4 "Beta" + 300 MB Rollback...
So you have to download around 700 MB... to PC...

Thank you very much for offer...

Btw...
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Download the BETA binary onto my SD Card/Device storage and update from the device.

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I am not "sure"... but I thought it is only Z300H feature... in Recovery?

Or you mean via Codes and Commands to start FOTA Binary?  :)

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Re: Attention Beta Testers: Please VOTE and share your opinion
« Reply #2 On:November 17, 2015, 12:49:24 PM »
Please elaborate the 3rd option.
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« Reply #3 On:November 17, 2015, 12:48:18 PM »
Thanx.  8)

About the "SD method".

As SM-Z130H user I have seen this only as SM-Z300H feature...
I think something like this:
https://samsung.tizenforum.com/?topic=788.msg2934#msg2934

Ehm, I am unsure... if this is FOTA mechanism... then maybe better Full Firmware in 1clickTool...
To prevent update fail or is not possible... as base Firmware is wrong or ""corrupted""...

Thanx.

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Re: Attention Beta Testers: Please VOTE and share your opinion
« Reply #4 On:November 17, 2015, 01:07:00 PM »
i liked the option "full Beta and Rollback binaries in one click version" ... as it is easy to flash firmwares and we can easily flash many times if we have some problem in installed binary ..
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« Reply #5 On:November 17, 2015, 01:30:05 PM »
I would love to use 3rd option to put up image on SD card and flash it onto the device. Its easy and nice to rollback even if new corrupts your device.

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Re: Attention Beta Testers: Please VOTE and share your opinion
« Reply #6 On:November 17, 2015, 01:40:11 PM »
@adfree, Thanks for the detailed opinion.

@Jahidul, the 3rd option essentially means that you can download the Beta or the Rollback binary to your SD card and use option of installing from your SD card(no PC/USB dependency).

Hi All, thanks for sharing your suggestions by reply.  I hope you have voted too:)

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« Reply #7 On:November 17, 2015, 01:42:47 PM »
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...the 3rd option essentially means that you can download the Beta or the Rollback binary to your SD card and use option of installing from your SD card(no PC/USB dependency).

And this feature is with SM-Z130H and Firmware Version BOH1 possible?

Thanx in advance.

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« Reply #8 On:November 17, 2015, 01:46:41 PM »
Well.. right now its the feedback process.. once the opinion pours in, R&D will work the next steps to see what, how and when of it.

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« Reply #9 On:November 17, 2015, 01:53:25 PM »
I am asking like an baby... because I am not sure if all users know how SD method work...

You need handset + cable + download to PC... instead cable you could use SD Card Reader...
You have to copy or move to right path...

This needs more then 1 click...  ;D

And I have never seen this method in public...  :-[

Maybe all other users who vote SD method... used allready this method with Z130 and/or Z300...

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Please.
You know this "SD card method" ?
And you allready used this succesfully with SM-Z130H ? Or SM-Z300H ?

Sorry for asking. Because I have no idea...  :-[
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Re: Attention Beta Testers: Please VOTE and share your opinion
« Reply #10 On:November 17, 2015, 02:19:55 PM »
@adfree, Thanks for the detailed opinion.

@Jahidul, the 3rd option essentially means that you can download the Beta or the Rollback binary to your SD card and use option of installing from your SD card(no PC/USB dependency).

Hi All, thanks for sharing your suggestions by reply.  I hope you have voted too:)

Thanks for clarification. If 3rd option provides beta+rollback package, it would be better than 1st option. But I am confused why you mentioned only about BETA on 3rd option. And hope you will public the procedure to update from SD Card/device  very soon.
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Re: Attention Beta Testers: Please VOTE and share your opinion
« Reply #11 On:November 17, 2015, 02:34:11 PM »
I voted the first option, keeping in mind that every one can easily do it and I belive that will be the best thing.

Now a days 1GB data downloading is not a problem at all. Even in internet cafe one can sit and download it in 15-20 Min.
Once Downloaded one can roll back to previous or latest easily using PC.

FOTA and then using Kies, this uses more Data if one needs to Roll back and again FOTA beta upgrade. Also this one needs PC for doing a Rolling back Job.

For SD Card/Device Storage one needs faster connection and space is a problem, may not be for all but for few. Also if space availiable one would like to delete or copy to PC instead of wasting space in Mobile.

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« Reply #12 On:November 17, 2015, 03:01:29 PM »
I am asking like an baby... because I am not sure if all users know how SD method work...

You need handset + cable + download to PC... instead cable you could use SD Card Reader...
You have to copy or move to right path...

This needs more then 1 click...  ;D

And I have never seen this method in public...  :-[

Maybe all other users who vote SD method... used allready this method with Z130 and/or Z300...

?

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Please.
You know this "SD card method" ?
And you allready used this succesfully with SM-Z130H ? Or SM-Z300H ?

Sorry for asking. Because I have no idea...  :-[

Adfree its easy method where i was always using it while on my andriod devices, Even its convenient way. Just download the beta package if possible from link on the browser itself and save it on memory card , enter in recovery mode on phone couple of key combinations and you flash it easily. Even if the package didn't apply its easy to restore factory copy back. I'm not sure if your are used to Andriod devices its quiet easy and many people do that. give a shot in youtube to see how easy it would be to flash new image from memory card in andriod devices, I would definetly post a tutorial on Tizen soon,
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« Reply #13 On:November 17, 2015, 03:28:43 PM »
Thanx for fast answer Murali Chava.
 8)

Not sure if you have both SM-Z300H and SM-Z130H...

But SM-Z130H looks like this in Recovery Mode...
I have forgotten to check first Beta in Recovey...

You can compare with Z300H...
https://samsung.tizenforum.com/?topic=788.msg2934#msg2934

Will wait for further instruction...  :-[

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« Reply #14 On:November 17, 2015, 03:47:00 PM »
With less ROM, having the SD option would be more useful on Z1.

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